Limited usefulnes of Spring remoting due to forced connection at startup

[Villemos]

Just started using Spring remoting.

I have exported a set of beans and imported them as part of the assembly of another bean. I notice to my surprise that the importing bean will even fail startup if it cannot locate the exported beans, i.e. the startup fails if the imported beans have not been started yet.

This limits the usefulness of Spring remoting to the extend that I cannot use it; I will have to ensure that all components are started in a specific order to allow them to connect. And what about restarting a component?

I know that if I'm looking for a full blown component framework then I should move to Spring with EJBs. But I just want to use Spring remoting to manage the connection.

Much better would have been to only connect when the connection is needed and in case the connection cannot be established then continue processing.

Please tell me that the Spring documentation on remoting is just missing this part but that (of caurse) its there...

[Villemos]

This is not to toppost, but to finalize my post.

The fact that spring remoting forces connection establishment at startup, and that the assembly will fail and the application bail out if the connection establishment fails, has forced us to remove spring remoting completly from our system.

We have a large, distributed system where the component must be capabel of starting and restarting in any order. The connectors between component must, as in any proper architecture, be able to establish the connection when needed and if the connection establishment fails, retry the connection establishment at intervals (or upon next request). But it should never lead the component to fail just because a connection fails.

I'm surprised to see such a limiting feature in Spring, with which we have until now only had good experiences with. I know, I know; stop complaining and contribute instead!

[masudkarim]

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