Blog - 5 Reasons why I think I will not use Spring

[karldmoore]

I just looked it up in the dictionary. It was the nearest to the German word "stümperhaft" Other translations were dilettantish or amateurish. How would you actually say?

Amateurish would do it.

Exactly. So nothing to apologize for, Karl

Ok cool .

I'm completely with Debasish here.

I'm glad other people find it useful .

[karldmoore]

There's a follow up here, is this also 'stuporous'?
http://gorif.wordpress.com/2007/07/0...r-than-spring/

[Jörg Heinicke]

http://gorif.wordpress.com/2007/07/0...r-than-spring/

I wonder why he does only bashing without any analysis. If the difference between the two frameworks would be so significant it should be easy to point out the reason.

Jörg

[Marten Deinum]

He seems to keep bashing the xml configuration... I wonder if he has taken a look at the other configuration possiblities.

[kantorn]

Just a general thought on blogging....
Seems that the possibility to have your "fifteen minutes of fame" has gone a bit exagerated these days. There is a lot of Java blogs and curiously each and every one of them seem to be written by self-appointed Java top-of-the-line-experts. Well, if this guy has found other solutions... Good for him! Let him and his team use whatever framework he wishes, but....
*sigh* Getting pretty tired of all the complaining for bloated XML-configurations. Use another way if you are so fed up with XML. Using Spring is optional. Don't use it if you think it stinks!

[Andreas Senft]

Good summary, kantorn. I couldn't have stated it better

[Marten Deinum]

Maybe start a topic ' 5 reason why .... '

[karldmoore]

Getting pretty tired of all the complaining for bloated XML-configurations. Use another way if you are so fed up with XML. Using Spring is optional. Don't use it if you think it stinks!

I agree with you, the problem is I keep meeting people who've read these things without questioning what they've read. It's always nice when there are a constructive comments to support or shoot it down. It's so much easier to tell people read that as well, instead of me having to get into the same discussions over and over again.

[julien.dubois]

There's a guy who replied to this post with a good sense of humor :

http://jroller.com/page/wiradikusuma...sons_why_i_won

It's a good answer and it's also quite funny!

[pmularien]

Just a general thought on blogging....
Seems that the possibility to have your "fifteen minutes of fame" has gone a bit exagerated these days. There is a lot of Java blogs and curiously each and every one of them seem to be written by self-appointed Java top-of-the-line-experts. Well, if this guy has found other solutions... Good for him! Let him and his team use whatever framework he wishes, but....
*sigh* Getting pretty tired of all the complaining for bloated XML-configurations. Use another way if you are so fed up with XML. Using Spring is optional. Don't use it if you think it stinks!

But it's always easier to bash something without being analytical about it. If you write a poorly researched article bashing something without doing decent background research, people who don't read deeply will take it as fact. It's unfortunate that the editorial selection at TSS has gotten so poor that they publish blog entries like this as "fact" or at least as believable enough so that they make it onto the front page.

Since Spring's gotten enough of these types of articles published at this point, I wonder if the i21 folks (or the community) would be interested in publishing some articles comparing and contrasting Spring with other frameworks. I think a lot of the hubris is solely based on ignorance of what Spring is actually good at (that was my impression reading many of the comments on TSS and the author's blog). Thoughts?