rookie - Book for Spring - JMS and 3rd Party

[dr_pompeii]

hello guys

for this section of forum

i want to learn JMS with Spring, if is there a good book to learn from the scratch this?,
or special documentation with examples etc etc
pls let me know , i appreciate

a huge doubt i have related with JMS/Spring???
what is better Hessian/Burlap, RMI, and JAX-RPC,
why?
and
when should i choice one of them???

i hope you knowledge

thanks for advanced

p.d: yes, totally rookie in this

[TOPPER_HARLEY]

Hi,
You could try the spring user manual

Seriously though, it does have good examples of getting JMS and Spring up and running for MDPs etc. Thats where I started anyway.

/Tom

[dr_pompeii]

hi harley

You could try the spring user manual

well, is a liitle specific and not very detail it like for beginners,
i need something like a book

it does have good examples of getting JMS and Spring up and running for MDPs etc.

you meant this link
http://static.springframework.org/sp.../remoting.html ??
or other?

the spring distribution has examples of this?

regards

[TOPPER_HARLEY]

Hi,
"Pro Spring" by Rob Harrop is pretty good, though i'm not sure if the new version is out for Spring2.x.

User manual has a chapter for JMS
http://www.springframework.org/docs/reference/jms.html

/Tom

[dr_pompeii]

hi man

Hi,
"Pro Spring" by Rob Harrop is pretty good, though i'm not sure if the new version is out for Spring2.x.

yes, i have the book ,
this only has 1/2 chapter about JMS, and has enough information of course,
what i want to learn this form the scratch, more deeply

User manual has a chapter for JMS
http://www.springframework.org/docs/reference/jms.html

again, the link is not deep or is specific
(i am not saying tha is bad, but i hope you see my point)

including Hessian/Burlap, RMI, and JAX-RPC,

what is better? and why?, better support

regards

[Lyserg]

Hi,

i think there are every time two (nearly indepentend things to learn).
One thing to learn is on how spring remoting works, i think the best source
is the reference manual (and perhaps the demo applications).
The other thing is to learn about the middleware/protocolls that you are using with spring remoting. So for example if you are doing jms, IMHO it is important to have a good knowledge of the jms api and the custom messaging middleware that you are using (activemq, websphere etc..)

regards
agim

[dr_pompeii]

Hi Lyserg

thanks for your reply

One thing to learn is on how spring remoting works, i think the best source
is the reference manual (and perhaps the demo applications).

i could be agree, i respect your suggestion, but i need an explanation of the code , like a book, to see the reasons of the things,
i can understand perhaps 50/60 % the code example but not the "why"

i hope you see my point

The other thing is to learn about the middleware/protocolls that you are using with spring remoting. So for example if you are doing jms, IMHO it is important to have a good knowledge of the jms api and the custom messaging middleware that you are using (activemq, websphere etc..)

good, i am agree, so what book you can suggest to me about JMS?
i am rookie about this, many options JMS, Hessian/Burlap, RMI, and JAX-RPC, ect etc

maybe the answer can be, "depends of the requeriments", ok

but for a rookie like here, i am only asking, when and which option i can and should use?

thanks for advanced

regards

[Jörg Heinicke]

i could be agree, i respect your suggestion, but i need an explanation of the code , like a book, to see the reasons of the things, i can understand perhaps 50/60 % the code example but not the "why"

That's what Spring code is good in. It's well documented. A book will rarely go into that detail that it explains implementation details. You can learn APIs with books, but not implementations. I often read the specifications to learn the APIs though.

Jörg

[Lyserg]

Hello,

good, i am agree, so what book you can suggest to me about JMS?

It depens on your JMS provider, if you are using i.e. Webphere MQ, then i suggest to read the redbooks, which are avaiable online.

but for a rookie like here, i am only asking, when and which option i can and should use?

IMHO it depens really on your requirements.

For example.

Do you need asyncrhonus and reliable communication through your systems --> good indicator to go for jms
Do you need http communication, because you are behind a firewall ?
--> Hessian, Burlap or Jax-RPC
Do you want to use standarts, because you want to communicate with other languages such as .NET
--> JAx-RPC or perhaps Spring WS :-)

There are lots of reasons, that points you to the right decission.

regards
agim

[dr_pompeii]

hello Jörg

That's what Spring code is good in. It's well documented.

with which spring version you work?
maybe the code examples are changed by version release

i will see the examples code

Lyserg

It depens on your JMS provider, if you are using i.e. Webphere MQ, then i suggest to read the redbooks, which are avaiable online.

well about my skills i only work with tomcat, and i like free software, so maybe jBoss and i dont know if JBoss is the best option for J2EE (free version) and for JMS option , i never use Spring/JBoss

so i can prefer see myself working with JBoss/Spring/JMS

so if you know a good book to learn and JBoss and then JBoss with JMS, i appreciate your suggestion

IMHO it depens really on your requirements.

For example.

Do you need asyncrhonus and reliable communication through your systems --> good indicator to go for jms
Do you need http communication, because you are behind a firewall ?
--> Hessian, Burlap or Jax-RPC
Do you want to use standarts, because you want to communicate with other languages such as .NET
--> JAx-RPC or perhaps Spring WS :-)

thanks a lot for your explanation, concrete and simple

i saw in the book of ProSpring a chapter about Hessian, Burlap

i though by my mistake that Hessian, Burlap was an option for JMS, i see now that they are diferents

yes Spring WS sound cool

if you have time and can give more examples like you wrote, i appreciate, or if you can share a link to see for example when and how to use "this tool" ,
where "tool" can be JMS or Hessian, Burlap

thbaks both for your time

best wishes