Apr 20th, 2007, 10:06 AM
Quiz about Spring Framework
I am looking for a quiz that I can like the ones you can find in java.sun.com for other frameworks or technologies.
For example there is this quiz for struts:
Do you know where I can find one for the spring framework?
Apr 20th, 2007, 11:37 AM
There are loads on JavaBlackBelt, with the nature of the website though you have to contribute to take the tests. The Spring core exam requires a few credits, so you'll have to spend some time contributing before you can take them. There does seem to be lots of content in the tests however.
Last edited by karldmoore; Apr 22nd, 2007 at 05:05 AM.
Apr 21st, 2007, 08:51 AM
Thanks karldmoore. I will take a look at the tests.
Apr 22nd, 2007, 04:06 AM
After getting a few emails from people asking why the exams cost so much I've email the site administrator.
Apr 22nd, 2007, 03:26 PM
Spring exams cost on JavaBlackBelt.
Karl kindly asked me "why Spring (and Hibernate) exams cost much more contribution points than others?".
That's a good question which is worth an direct answer from me (JavaBlackBelt's founder) in this thread.
The reason is historical.
I got a contact with Rod from years, at conferences, and he was never responsive (a prefessional way I mean). More recently, Colin has been more clear to me (thank you for this Colin).
Here was my request to Colin:
I'm John Rizzo, JavaBlackBelt's founder (site building free exams by the community)
We just released the "Spring Core" exam.
It'd probably interest the Spring community.
Could you announce it on SpringFramework.org ?
Here was his answer:
Unfortunately right now due to our current corporate strategic direction we're not in the position to help promote any (commercial) initiatives that are potentially in competition with any Interface21 activities. Interface21 funds about 98% of the development of Spring, as well as spending a large amount of time and money on the public sites like www.springframework.org and forum.springframework.org, so the general policy is to limit competing commercial activities on the latter sites, and generally limit commercial content in general.
As people can get free access (by contributing) to any JavaBlackBelt exam, and we don't charge individuals, I don't understand the "(commercial)" in the reply (I got no further reply on this). My understanding is that i21 is preparing some commercial Spring exams and don't like competition (which is legitimate). If I'm wrong, please tell me.
In JavaBlackBelt v3 that will come out this summer, we'll make possible that each JavaBlackBelt user gets one free exam of its choice, which could be a Spring exam. We'll have to tune this to prevent cheating (create a fake user and see real questions too easily), but we are ready to open the box wider.
I commit to lower the contribution points for the Spring exams significantly, and to give some easier access for visitors from SpringFramework.org,
if the Spring community (translate "if Rod"?) plays the game and sends contributors traffic to these exams (contributor's = users that votes on questions, edit/improve them or simply create questions).
It would help doubling the amount of Spring exam quickly from 4 to 8, which would include new programming exams (vs multiple choice question).
I hope this answers your legitimate question.
I hope the communication from i21 to JavaBlackBelt will improve and that a solution will come up.
At JavaBlackBelt, we love Spring's quality (concept and source code). We use it to develop the exam collaborative platform (the web site). Our community would love to make more Spring exams (and soon e-learning) happen, faster.
Apr 24th, 2007, 05:27 PM
So Spring exams cost more because Rod Johnson doesn't drive traffic to your website?
Apr 25th, 2007, 02:07 AM
Not exactly Cepage,
They cost more because in the past, we decided that Spring and Hibernate exams would cost more. One reason was because at that time we personnaly invested so much time in them.
I've a demand from the Spring community to lower the cost (as far as I understand). I'm just wondering if the Spring community is ready to contribute more to these exams (by having more people to take them and vote on questions for example) and if they want more Spring exams.
But maybe I'm wrong to ask that to the Spring community, and I should ask that to Rod ? The distinction is not clear to me (see Colin's answer in my previous post).
I hope this answers your question.