Why does this forum use PHP? Why not Spring?

[springland]

Does anyone know of any comparison studies between web frameworks that also use Spring? Specifically -> JSF, PHP, Struts, Tapestry and Spring MVC.

[wdbetts]

Does anyone know of any comparison studies between web frameworks that also use Spring? Specifically -> JSF, PHP, Struts, Tapestry and Spring MVC.

Spring Live (http://www.sourcebeat.com/TitleAction.do?id=7) has a chapter on using different web frameworks with Spring (JSF, Struts, Tapestry and WebWork), in addition to the two chapters devoted to Spring MVC. There is a table at the end that compares the features of each framework. BTW Spring Live is the Best Spring Book Ever.

--david

[Alarmnummer]

Does anyone know of any comparison studies between web frameworks that also use Spring? Specifically -> JSF, PHP, Struts, Tapestry and Spring MVC.

Spring Live (http://www.sourcebeat.com/TitleAction.do?id=7) has a chapter on using different web frameworks with Spring (JSF, Struts, Tapestry and WebWork), in addition to the two chapters devoted to Spring MVC. There is a table at the end that compares the features of each framework. BTW Spring Live is the Best Spring Book Ever.

--david

Have you read the others? I have Spring in Action and Pro Spring (next to my bed: an excelend reference manual).. I have skimmed through the online version of Spring Live.. but I wasn`t very impressed.

I also had a look at J2EE design and J2EE design without EJB (they are less a reference manual but give you the big picture).

So.. are you just spamming? Or do you have some good arguments?

[wdbetts]

Does anyone know of any comparison studies between web frameworks that also use Spring? Specifically -> JSF, PHP, Struts, Tapestry and Spring MVC.

Spring Live (http://www.sourcebeat.com/TitleAction.do?id=7) has a chapter on using different web frameworks with Spring (JSF, Struts, Tapestry and WebWork), in addition to the two chapters devoted to Spring MVC. There is a table at the end that compares the features of each framework. BTW Spring Live is the Best Spring Book Ever.

--david

Have you read the others? I have Spring in Action and Pro Spring (next to my bed: an excelend reference manual).. I have skimmed through the online version of Spring Live.. but I wasn`t very impressed.

I also had a look at J2EE design and J2EE design without EJB (they are less a reference manual but give you the big picture).

So.. are you just spamming? Or do you have some good arguments?

I have read Spring In Action and Spring: A Developer's Notebook as well. I found Spring Live a good balance between hand holding and 30 thousand foot overview. This is my personal opionion, so take it with a grain of salt.

[Alarmnummer]

It has been some time I have checked it.. so maybe this is a good time to have another go.

[lumpynose]

I have read Spring In Action and Spring: A Developer's Notebook as well. I found Spring Live a good balance between hand holding and 30 thousand foot overview. This is my personal opionion, so take it with a grain of salt.

I've also ready Spring: A Developer's Notebook and cannot recommend it. I agree with your "30 thousand foot overview" comparison. Spring is much too complicated for that type of book. And there are too many errors in the book.

I've read both Spring in Action and Pro Spring and like them both, but I also think that both of them could be better. I would prefer that both of them do more coverage of developing a web application and less of things like remoting and other "tangential" stuff. Perhaps a better way to do it would be a 2 volume set with one covering the web side in gory detail. I definitely think you could do a book the length of Spring in Action that just covers web applications.

[springmvcsucks]

Someone said: "Why reinvent the wheel?" Holy shit... THERE ARE OVER 200 JAVA FRAMEWORKS OUT THERE and this guy is asking "why reinvent the wheel?" as an argument for using PHP. Yea that isn't hipocrisy at all. Not one bit.
Spring source uses PHP because Spring and Java SUCK. They know what kind of crap is gonna happen if they try to use Spring for websites running in production so they just don't use it. It's overly complex, NOT what people want or need, poorly documented, poorly supported, useless, buggy, heavyweight, and obsolete. Long live the Spring? I don't think so. There's a reason Rod Johnson is exiting the game.